Thank you for your replies, Data-Dog & Frankiespeakin!
Shoot, I get a "try again later" on the Bruce Lee youtube video.
Will try for a higher CBD strain... sometimes ya gotta takes what's out there... thank you for your advice! :)
Muddy Waters
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"Cannabis the Evil Weed" You Tube BBC Horizon
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmnturdltwo&feature=g-vrec.
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"Cannabis the Evil Weed" You Tube BBC Horizon
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmnturdltwo&feature=g-vrec.
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Frankiespeakin: "If I stick to a indica strain of cannabis the high is more mild and less confrontational of my shadow repressions, whereas a predominate sativa strain make me more prone to face repressions I have tucked away in my shadow."
This is a really neat way to describe the negative inward journey that can sometimes happen when one gets buzzed, and I've no idea how to overcome this when it happens.
Would *really* like some suggestions or advice on how to overcome (or better deal with) these "confrontations with the repressions tucked away in my shadow"...!!!
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Need Help: What Would You Try to Tell Current JW's?
by daringhart13 ini've been journaling a lot the past couple of years....it was recommended to me by a therapist when my anger was boiling over.. so recently i decided to start an exercise: what would you tell them if they would listen?.
i've started listing my top 10 and it's interesting......i'm over all of the doctrinal insanity.....i'm forever indebted to the more scholarly among us that have put so much effort into research, writing, etc.!!!.
mine all focused on more 'human' subjects....emotions, pain, etc.
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Hm. You never which "button" will open the door... but I think it helps to question the GB/FDS, because then everything else seems to fall down after that.
You might ask them, which is "inspired", the Bible or the Watchtower? Why is there so much emphasis on placing the WT magazine (it is published in WAY more languages than the Bible, but I don't know the current figures)...? On the Field Service Report, there are spaces to fill in for placements: books, brochures, etc., but there is NO SPACE on that form for BIBLES! (Shouldn't the word of God take precedence over the WT literature? -- of course, a JW will say that there is no understanding the Bible without their literature, but *why* should there be such a torrent of WT literature? If the truth is simple and basic, why does the WTBTS pump out reams and reams of paper and publications month after month, year after year? Could they possible be a PUBLISHING COMPANY...?)
Why are there always deficits at every assembly and convention? Why are KHs not allowed to save any donations beyond the amount stipulated by the society? Is it because the WTBTS is also a REAL ESTATE development company....?
The WTBTS collects MILLIONS (almost or just over a billion now) dollars every YEAR from donations, wills, property, stocks, bonds, hedge funds, investments, real estate, etc. yet they do NO charitable works? The *only* approved-by-the-Society charitable work is "the preaching work", which consists of trying to place the Society's literature every month.They need to keep the preaching work at the forefront because it is the ONLY action which maintains their religious (read: tax-free) status. This despite reports and comments and experience that hardly anybody is made a convert through the door-to-door work.
You can compare the WTBTS to a multi-level marketing company. They have "sales/motivational" meetings weekly to pump up their sales force for placing more product. Like Amway, people's garages and basements fill up with product they can't sell/place. How many JWs do you know who sheepishly admit that they have tons and tons of literature stored away...? And they are too embarrassed to return it to the KHs for shipment elsewhere or "where the need is great."...
I don't know if any words like this might get a JW thinking. You might ask them why is there no transparency regarding financial statements to the rank and file members of the organization? You are supposed to trust (implicitly) the rulings and decisions of EIGHT men in New York, whose names most JWs don't even know. They know nothing of these men or their credentials, yet make life-changing (even life and death!) decisions based on the edicts and decisions of these men. They *trust* (blindly?) that these eight men have God's spirit and direct his "earthly, visible organzation".... but if that were so, why do their decisions keep changing? Why do we continually receive "new light" which in some cases totally contradicts "old light"...?
Does this not show that man is leading man... to his detriment? When a JW uses scriptures which say, "Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthing man, to WHOM NO SALVATION BELONGS..." (Psalm 146), do we add an addendum to verses such as: "... except for the 8 men in Brooklyn, New York, whom God has appointed..." ??
What about the scripture in Acts: "We must obey God as ruler rather than men." (... addendum: "... except for the 8 men in Brooklyn, New York, whom God has appointed...") (whom God has appointed by some mysterious process which no rank and file member knows?)...
Ask a JW to read the bible book of GALATIANS. Paul did NOT go up to Jerusalem after his conversion (on the road to Damascus) for 3 YEARS, stayed only for 2 weeks, then went off again for another 14 years before visiting Jerusalem again. He is quick to say he was NOT following any man or group of men, nor was he taught by any man or group of men!!
...Oh boy, I could go on and on... But maybe you could ask a JW to explain how the WBTS could be involved with the United Nations for 10 YEARS (secretly)... from 1991 (when they first applied) (and were accepted in 1992) to 2001 (when discovered).
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You could ask why the Judicial Committees are held in secret ("star-secret chambers") when the organization itself says that one of the reasons there was fair justice in the nation of Israel was that problems or issues with people were dealt with PUBLICLY... and that people should ever-more shun family members based on a secret discussion (of which nobody knows) with three elders and their resultant judgment ? Nobody knows what was discussed, yet all again have to trust (blindly? implicitly?) in the rulings of these men....
You could ask why there are different levels, or tiers, of brothers in the organization, complete with special (secret) books and manuals when Jesus has told us that no one should be our ruler, that only Christ is our head or ruler. Why are there THOUSANDS of special little laws and rulings in these books and manuals when Jesus told us that we are under only the law of LOVE...?
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You could ask them how they teach little children to love God... do they do so with love and compassion in mind, or might they use a combination of FEAR and GUILT? Ask them to look at the literature for little children, kids who don't even know how to read. Ask the JW to look at the book, "MY BOOK OF BIBLE STORIES" from a small child's point of view. Ask them to figure out, from the pictures only, who are the "bad guys" and who are the "good guys".... Ask if a little child could easily figure this out or process these violent and very frightening images. Is this suitable viewing material for a little child...? Would it make them love God? Would it help little children draw close to God and feel like he really cares about them and loves them?
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Oh yes, I could go on and on. But maybe some of this will suffice for now.
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Quote from this week's WT study
by dissonance_resolved in"god's servants on earth will not need to defend themselves against aliens from another planet.".
good to know- but strangely no scriptural reference for this gem..
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It saddens me to think of all the little children in the audiences at all the KHs world-wide who will listen to these nightmarish words and who will, like my own dear little children did, request to have the light on at night, their doors open, or beg to come into bed with mommy & daddy....
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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!
by Sic Semper Tyrannis ini am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
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Wha happened -- I think you're spot on about the anger. Whether intentional or not, AAWA comes across as angry. Their name is so off-putting for this reason. It is a negative name. It is a name which would frighten any JW or even a JW with doubts or questions.
Steve Hassan recommends gentleness, kindness, sublety... When you're dealing with MIND CONTROL and cognitive dissonance, you can't throw bricks and gauntlets down, it only drives the person further into that which you want them to get away from.
I do not know Cedars, but I've appreciated many of his posts on his jwsurvey website.
The AAWA video brought me to tears when I first watched it. After seeing it, I couldn't stop crying for awhile -- there was so much emotion in the video! and you could feel and understand the people's pain.
But now.... now it's all gone to shit.
There was a great post (in another thread?) where a person (shoot, can't remember name) said that most people do not want to fight an organization, their fight is for their families. It is a personal fight. Once the family member is rescued or recovered, they're out. They're done. They want to walk away from the WTBTS and JW-world and get on with their lives. Which is why people do not flock to join organizations like "Anti-Scientology" or "Anti-Mormom", etc. This makes sense to me and reflects what most people want and how they want to help and to what extent.- Muddy
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Having children is bad
by dissonance_resolved inwent to the weeknight meeting this week for the first time in a long while.
the study was all about how having children was ill-advised in this time of the end- the comments dwelled on what a burden children are, how you can spend more time in the ministry without children, and look what they did in jerusalem- they cannabilized their own children!
it's going to be so horrible to watch our children suffer during the great tribulation!
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Hey, Data-Dog, here's a link for downloading the pdf file of the Jeremiah book (scroll down). You can see the nastiness with your own eyes.... (may need bleach after)!
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Having children is bad
by dissonance_resolved inwent to the weeknight meeting this week for the first time in a long while.
the study was all about how having children was ill-advised in this time of the end- the comments dwelled on what a burden children are, how you can spend more time in the ministry without children, and look what they did in jerusalem- they cannabilized their own children!
it's going to be so horrible to watch our children suffer during the great tribulation!
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Holy sh*t....!!!! Here's a quote from paragraph 4: " Can you imagine the feelings of those who were reduced to cannibalism or those who saw loved ones become mere carrion?" (regarding destruction of Jerusalem)
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Having children is bad
by dissonance_resolved inwent to the weeknight meeting this week for the first time in a long while.
the study was all about how having children was ill-advised in this time of the end- the comments dwelled on what a burden children are, how you can spend more time in the ministry without children, and look what they did in jerusalem- they cannabilized their own children!
it's going to be so horrible to watch our children suffer during the great tribulation!
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Data-Dog: The Jeremiah book, chapter 8, paragraphs 1-7 (starts on page 92).
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Rutherford may have been right on one thing.....
by EndofMysteries ini remember seeing a few years ago articles posted about the strange things published that is considered nonsense today.
i remember one was him strongly opposed to anything with aluminum.
it's becoming increasingly mentioned as that being a major link to several autoimmune diseases and alheimers/dementia/etc.
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The vaccine issue is one that I've been doing a lot of research into recently. There are many compelling arguments and research *against* vaccination. Again, one needs to hear from BOTH sides of an issue/argument to come to their own conclusion.
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Having children is bad
by dissonance_resolved inwent to the weeknight meeting this week for the first time in a long while.
the study was all about how having children was ill-advised in this time of the end- the comments dwelled on what a burden children are, how you can spend more time in the ministry without children, and look what they did in jerusalem- they cannabilized their own children!
it's going to be so horrible to watch our children suffer during the great tribulation!
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I've never forgotten one of Ray Franz's quotes in CoC regarding the extent in which the Society involves themselves (imposes themselves) in people's lives involving LIFE'S MOST PRECIOUS ASSETS -- children (the decision to have or not to have), education, career, use of one's time, choice of marriage mate (or remaining single).... They impose their values and strictures on people for the good of the organization and railroad their members and drive them into the ground while constantly taking, taking, taking from them.
When Rutherford penned his evil tome, "Children", it was later described in a WT as a book which the children in the audience held dear to them, clasping the book to their bosom as something precious and valuble...
The most evil thing about this book was Rutherford's ranting against having any children! The hubris about delivering his special talk toward the children of the audience, and making his book a gift to the CHILDREN in the audience is especially despicable when once again, the aim was for people not to have any children or for these children to grow up and have children.
A people or group or organization who spurns children is a cold, dead, lifeless, heartless beast of a thing. There is no love there or love of life or appreciation of LIFE and future. The GB is like a group of already cold, dead men reaching with skeletal hands to take life from you and make you as dusty and cold and empty as they...- Muddy